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Post by BethAndMom on Jan 8, 2014 13:28:20 GMT -5
My grandpa is an invalid with type II diabetes. He has been eating THM style with us (he and Grandma live with us) but Grandma has been noticing a rise in his blood sugar overnight. We will eat an "S" for dinner and his blood sugar will be about 140 after dinner. In the morning, before breakfast, his blood sugar will be in the 200 range. Grandma thinks this might be due to the fats. She did some research and found places that say that fats will raise your blood sugar, but not immediately. It takes 4-6 hours. While Grandma has seen him losing weight while on plan, she is concerned with the blood sugar aspect.
Have anybody else noticed this problem? What do you do about it? Do you plan your meals differently? Does it maybe have to do with that he is invalid and doesn't get up much?
-Beth
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Post by susieq on Jan 8, 2014 14:04:19 GMT -5
I have only had gestational diabetes and I finally met with a dietitian and diabetes consultant in my previous pregnancy. I learned that I need to eat carbs in the evening with a good protein because I was more insulin resistant.
I don't know much about regular diabetes, but I hope this helps. Maybe have an E supper. Or in my case we eat supper at 5:00 so I can have an S supper and later a real good E snack. Possibly combine a grain, a fruit, and the protein.
Someone who has more experience will have a more sure answer for you, but with the knowledge I have and it worked for my numbers.
Hope you get some good answers.
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Post by nebby on Jan 8, 2014 14:09:59 GMT -5
So my dd has type 1 diabetes which is a different disease but has a lot of overlap with type 2. I can tell you for sure that fat does slow the absorption of carbs. We will see the effects of high fat meals 8 or more hours later. Fat slows down the absorption of carbs. If there are no or few carbs, blood sugar can still rise as the body uses other things for fuel. It is hard to tell if your grandpa is rising because of the meals or if he would do so anyway. Try a fuel pull meal would be my advice and see how much is bg rises. If it still rises, then it is probably more a matter of what his body is doing than what you are feeding him. If so, I would talk to his doctor about medications. Personally I am a big proponent of insulin, even for type2 ( my dd needs it to live) but there are lots of other meds for D too. Nebby
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Post by BethAndMom on Jan 8, 2014 14:36:47 GMT -5
Thank you for your responses! My grandpa has been taking insulin for at least 20 years. His insulin intake has reduced since he has been on plan, though, and he loves the food!
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Post by nebby on Jan 8, 2014 16:32:50 GMT -5
Since he's on insulin, he may just need a little tweaking to his routine or dosage. Maybe he needs more at night and less durIng the day or maybe just more at night. There are different insulins that work over different time frames so maybe just switching insulins would help. I would talk To his doctor. Nebby
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Post by steffanie3 on Jan 9, 2014 15:49:39 GMT -5
It might be a good idea to add some fiber in the evening as well. There is a diabetic issue called "Dawn Phenomena" you might want to look into, but I agree it is worth talking to his doctor about.
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Post by nebby on Jan 9, 2014 18:53:35 GMT -5
Dawn phenomenon is when blood sugar rises towards the morning. It is very common in puberty when lots of growth hormones are at work. I guess I don't know though that adults or type 2s don't get it. The question would be whether he rises slowly over night or just in the last few hours. The only way to know is to check his blood sugar during the night. If it is a rise just at the end, it will be harder to treat without an insulin pump. One other possibility is that he is actually going low and then rebounding up. Since he is on insulin, that could be the case. Again the more you can check his blood sugar the more you will have to work with. Nebby
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Post by steffanie3 on Jan 9, 2014 23:59:59 GMT -5
My type 2 50 year old friend has had issues with it, is how I know about it
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Post by Charlie-bb on Apr 3, 2016 9:07:00 GMT -5
I want to get back to this.
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